She might just die. I recently convinced a coworker to get the vaccine, and she did. And four weeks later contracted Covid-19, probably the delta variant, lost her taste and slept for 5 days straight. Had she not had the vaccine, it's quite likely she would now be dead.
How likely would she to be dead? I encourage everyone to get vaccinated if they can, but even without vaccination the CDC estimated the fatality rate at only 0.6% for the population as a whole. We should take this seriously but exaggerating the risks isn't helpful.
Uhh.. what makes you say that? What percentage of people who get covid actually get admitted to the hospital? What percentage actually die? Both answers are probably lower than you think.
You convincing her to get the vaccine probably fucked up her immune system and led her to getting covid. That scenario is equally possible at this point.
The point you missed in your argument, is that those 700k deaths were from the disease and the 8000 were most likely caused by vaccine legal mandates. The point of trolley problems like vaccine mandates are a type of, is that its not ok to kill 8000 to save 700,000.
>the 8000 were most likely caused by vaccine legal mandates
No, that's not true at all. EEOC didn't give the OK to employers to enforce vaccine requirements until May 28th. At that point 41% of the USA was fully vaccinated, 51% with a single dose. Now, 4 months later, 55% people are fully vaccinated and 62% have had a single dose. Therefore most of the doses that have been done went out before the idea of a vaccine mandate was even on the table.
Meanwhile, there's r/HermanCainAward and r/LeopardsAteMyFace which are each full of hundreds of examples of anti-vaxxers who got sick and died because they "did all the right things" and "stood strong against the government" but COVID didn't care.
Agreed. Maybe its then a question of what is most likely, and also based on medical history of each person. What about this idea? We try to convince people instead, and not make it mandatory?
Not getting your vaccination at this point in time, with all the information available is performative theatrics, not an intellectual decision based on facts. They're only going to be convinced when someone they know or love is either hospitalized or die from the disease.
"“Many of us were saying let’s use [the vaccine] to save lives, not to vaccinate people already immune,” says Marty Makary, a professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins University."
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"As more US employers, local governments, and educational institutions issue vaccine mandates that make no exception for those who have had covid-19,8 questions remain about the science and ethics of treating this group of people as equally vulnerable to the virus—or as equally threatening to those vulnerable to covid-19—and to what extent politics has played a role."
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"Not one of over 1300 unvaccinated employees who had been previously infected tested positive during the five months of the study"
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"Real world data have also been supportive.Several studies (in Qatar, England, Israel, and the US) have found infection rates at equally low levels among people who are fully vaccinated and those who have previously had covid-19. Cleveland Clinic surveyed its more than 50 000 employees to compare four groups based on history of SARS-CoV-2 infection and vaccination status. Not one of over 1300 unvaccinated employees who had been previously infected tested positive during the five months of the study.
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Researchers concluded that that cohort “are unlikely to benefit from covid-19 vaccination.” In Israel, researchers accessed a database of the entire population to compare the efficacy of vaccination with previous infection and found nearly identical numbers. “Our results question the need to vaccinate previously infected individuals,” they concluded."
